Is ChatGPT already an AGI?
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1 Initial discussion of capabilities
1.1 Summary of below
I propose that chatGPT in particular is already an AGI. I think that if you could intrepert its inscrutable matrix of floating point values, you will find in there a model of human senses, the human body, how the human gait world, a model of the world, the causal relationships of a vast amount of domain-specific knowlege, and all the rest.
How could chatGPT get all this from just text? Because the reality exists in the shadows of the text. Its cauaslity is what generated the text in the first place and so that causality can be back-inferred form reading the text.
I think that chatGPT is already generally intelligent at the level of a smart high school student, in essentially all fields of human endeavor.
V disagrees and thinks that obviously chatGPT isn't an AGI. I would like to believe this as well, but if it's so obvious, it ought to be easy to come up with prompts that reveal how "fake" chatGPT really is.
Concrete summary of V.'s predictions about how chatGPT / areas to explore:
- That chatGPT "can't count" and that this alone makes it not an AGI.
- That chatGPT can't even tell the difference between things like "an astronaut riding a horse" vs "a horse riding an astronaut".
- That chatGPT can't understand complicated text from the 1900's such as Jane Austin.
- That chatGPT can't conduct a good argument about which animals or fictional characters would win in a fight on the level of a 10-year-old kid.
- That chatGPT can't reason about a novel system of taboos.
- That chatGPT will not be able to play a simple board game with new rules you make up on the spot.
- That the youtube video AGI Debate contains clear evidence that chatGPT is not an AGI.
- That Gary Markus' tweets over the last few months reference clear evidence that chatGPT isn't an AGI.
- That chatGPT can't walk or control a body.
Over the next sections I will investigate these claims.
1.2 Thoughts from V, as best as I could write them.
V:
Can't do basically anything a todler can do
Only thing with big dataset
V:
Endless stuff here:
V.:
"You could invent a board game, and play it with a kid and they could play it adequately. ChatGPT probably can't
Tell it a story where a cat chases a dog, and then drop it, GPT won't keep it in memory. It can't keep track of things or maintain a satisfactory story.
If you think about this in terms of "things you would want to get done by a human", you'll see that chatGPT can't do a lot of tasks.
It's so incredible much worse than a highschooler on things where there isn't an infinite amount of data. The challenge is that language is getting in the way here. Dall-e forces it to do something that's not just words.
Ctitical question is to look for novelty. Look for situations that are extremely continuous, not discreet, so that slight changes don't lead to transformations in outcomes.
So in a go 7x7 game, slight changes will be transformative in the outcome.
me:
My mom could not play a go over text very well, I think chatGPT could do alright in comparison.
A blind person is still generally intelligent. The shadow of the human body is reflected in our writings, and it's probably in chatGPT or else how could it reason so effectively about the body?
V.:
Most things that you can say easily can just be looked up.
Try to say things that have very nested gramatical structures, 19th century literary structure,
Hve it work with the sentences of pierce, or jane austen.
The things that high school students are tought to do in high school are not themselves part of something that's generally inteligent.
V. would say that most humans most of the time are not generally intelligent. And it is possible to run a test to see if someeone is intelligent.
Any normal human activity that a human child can do, GPT can't do if given control of a body.
GPT can't walk and do things. The vast majority of speech by 30-year-olds is not generally intelligent while the vast majority of speech by 10-year-olds is.
me:
What about "10-year-old roleplay"?
V:
Asking it to come up with arguments and counterarguments to an argument that has logical flaws.
Logic and embodiment are related. In the relevant sense, a parapalegic can still.
From the perspective of embodiment, you identify logical implications. the ability to do those sorts of thins does not exist AT all in GPT.
rlm: (what about the shadow)
In a typical highschooler in their performance in a class, that ability is missing.
So if GPT tries to role-play a 10-year old, then it won't be able to pass the turing test.
a 30-yr-old could pass the turing test w/ 10-year-olds.
J.
which animals could you beat in a fight? Which fictional characters could beat other characters in a fight? Which character could win in a fight. they will go on for a long time and be able to return to somthing that was said 5 minutes ago in the conversation, and say "gotcha!"
V.
What it would take to convince that something's intelligent is based on how much fine tuning it has. If it was able to argue with a polynesian person about what's taboo in english. Or jewish taboos.
Make up a taboo system, think about what it would imply about its laws if different rulings were made different.
2 The issue of counting
ChatGPT gets things wrong like "how many words are in this sentence?" It will often get these wrong by one, like saying that the "?" is a word. I'm willing to give this a pass because chatGPT doesn't preceive words like we do, instead it gets tokens that are hashes. So, for example, the sentence
"How many words are in this sentence?"
might get pre-processed to
0x23432 0x23214 0x84734 0x134566 0x929392 0x38483 0x020393 0x939230
With the "?" literally looking like a word.
So, I consider these "counting" problems to not really be fair, and consider them analogus to something like asking a human to compare different texts written in ink that's only visible in UV, or asking me to count the words in a sentence of spoken Arabic.
3 Basic relations, plausible physicality
I'm compltely satisfied that these initial criticisms of V. are nonexamples. Presumably this should be surprising!
V:
An astronaut ridinng a horse or a horse riding an astronaut are the same to it. A dog chasing a cat or a cat chasing a dog. A bottle in a box or a box in a bottle.
No grammar at all.
ChatGPT transcript:
Robert:
Is there any difference between “a horse riding an astronaut” and “an astronaut riding a horse”, and if so, what’s the difference? Explain in a very exhaustive way and don’t assume I know what “horses” or “astronauts” are in your explanation .
GPT:
The phrase "a horse riding an astronaut" and "an astronaut riding a horse" convey two different images and ideas.
A horse is a quadrupedal mammal that is commonly used for riding and transportation. They have been domesticated for thousands of years and are trained to be ridden by people. An astronaut is a person who is trained and qualified to participate in space exploration and travel.
In the phrase "a horse riding an astronaut," the image conveyed is that of a horse physically riding on top of an astronaut. This phrase is not used in everyday language and would be considered an unusual or fantastical concept, as horses are not capable of riding on top of humans, and it would be impossible for a horse to physically do so in real life.
In the phrase "an astronaut riding a horse," the image conveyed is that of an astronaut sitting on top of a horse and being transported by the horse. This is a more common and realistic image, as horses are often ridden by people.
In summary, the main difference between the two phrases is that the former is an unusual concept while the latter is more common and realistic.
Robert:
What’s the difference between “a cat chasing a dog” and “a dog chasing a cat”? The phrase "a cat chasing a dog" and "a dog chasing a cat" convey two different images and ideas.
A cat is a small, four-legged mammal known for its agility and hunting abilities. They are often kept as pets and are known to chase small animals such as mice and birds. A dog is also a four-legged mammal, known for its loyalty and ability to be trained for various purposes such as hunting, herding, and companionship.
In the phrase "a cat chasing a dog," the image conveyed is that of a cat actively pursuing and attempting to catch a dog. This may be an unusual scenario as cats and dogs are usually not known to chase one another.
On the other hand, in the phrase "a dog chasing a cat," the image conveyed is that of a dog actively pursuing and attempting to catch a cat. This is a more common scenario as dogs are known to chase small animals and cats are known to be chased by dogs.
In summary, the main difference between the two phrases is that the first one is less common and less likely to happen in reality, while the second one is more common and expected.
Robert:
“Bottle in a box” vs “box in a bottle”?
GPT:
The phrase "bottle in a box" and "box in a bottle" convey two different images and ideas.
A bottle is a container, typically made of glass or plastic, used to hold liquids. They have a narrow neck and a wide base, and are sealed with a cork, cap, or lid. A box is a container, typically made of cardboard or wood, used to store and transport items. It has six sides, a top, and a bottom and is often closed with a lid or flap.
In the phrase "bottle in a box," the image conveyed is that of a bottle being stored or transported inside a box. This scenario is commonly seen when bottles are being shipped or packaged for sale.
In the phrase "box in a bottle," the image conveyed is that of a box being placed inside a bottle. This scenario is less common and may be considered unusual, as it would be difficult to fit a box inside a bottle due to the dimensions and shape of the bottle.
In summary, the main difference between the two phrases is that the first one is a common scenario while the second one is less common and unusual.
4 Jane Austen reading comprehension
In my opinion, chatGPT is able to read and understand Jane Austen just fine, and has better reading comprehension than I do on a first time-limited glance. It's answers are better than the vast majority of high schoolers. The older, denser language poses absolutely no problem to it at all.
Robert
I will give you some text, and I'm hoping you can summarize it and answer some questions. Can you do that?
Yes, I can summarize text and answer questions. Please provide the text and the questions you would like me to answer.
Robert
T five o’clock the two ladies retired to dress, and at half-past six Elizabeth was summoned to dinner. To the civil inquiries which then poured in, and amongst which she had the pleasure of distinguishing the much superior solicitude of Mr. Bingley, she could not make a very favourable answer. Jane was by no means better. The sisters, on hearing this, repeated three or four times how much they were grieved, how shocking it was to have a bad cold, and how excessively they disliked being ill themselves; and then thought no more of the matter: and their indifference towards Jane, when not immediately before them, restored Elizabeth to the enjoyment of all her original dislike.
Their brother, indeed, was the only one of the party whom she could regard with any complacency. His anxiety for Jane was evident, and his attentions to herself most pleasing; and they prevented her feeling herself so much an intruder as she believed she was considered by the others. She had very little notice from any but him. Miss Bingley was engrossed by Mr. Darcy, her sister scarcely less so; and as for Mr. Hurst, by whom Elizabeth sat, he was an indolent man, who lived only to eat, drink, and play at cards, who, when he found her prefer a plain dish to a ragout, had nothing to say to her.
When dinner was over, she returned directly to Jane, and Miss Bingley began abusing her as soon as she was out of the room. Her manners were pronounced to be very bad indeed,—a mixture of pride and impertinence: she had no conversation, no style, no taste, no beauty. Mrs. Hurst thought the same, and added,—
“She has nothing, in short, to recommend her, but being an excellent walker. I shall never forget her appearance this morning. She really looked almost wild.”
“She did indeed, Louisa. I could hardly keep my countenance. Very nonsensical to come at all! Why must she be scampering about the country, because her sister had a cold? Her hair so untidy, so blowzy!”
“Yes, and her petticoat; I hope you saw her petticoat, six inches deep in mud, I am absolutely certain, and the gown which had been let down to hide it not doing its office.”
“Your picture may be very exact, Louisa,” said Bingley; “but this was all lost upon me. I thought Miss Elizabeth Bennet looked remarkably well when she came into the room this morning. Her dirty petticoat quite escaped my notice.”
“You observed it, Mr. Darcy, I am sure,” said Miss Bingley; “and I am inclined to think that you would not wish to see your sister make such an exhibition.”
“Certainly not.”
“To walk three miles, or four miles, or five miles, or whatever it is, above her ancles in dirt, and alone, quite alone! what could she mean by it? It seems to me to show an abominable sort of conceited independence, a most country-town indifference to decorum.”
“It shows an affection for her sister that is very pleasing,” said Bingley.
“I am afraid, Mr. Darcy,” observed Miss Bingley, in a half whisper, “that this adventure has rather affected your admiration of her fine eyes.”
“Not at all,” he replied: “they were brightened by the exercise.” A short pause followed this speech, and Mrs. Hurst began again,—
“I have an excessive regard for Jane Bennet,—she is really a very sweet girl,—and I wish with all my heart she were well settled. But with such a father and mother, and such low connections, I am afraid there is no chance of it.”
“I think I have heard you say that their uncle is an attorney in Meryton?”
“Yes; and they have another, who lives somewhere near Cheapside.”
“That is capital,” added her sister; and they both laughed heartily.
“If they had uncles enough to fill all Cheapside,” cried Bingley, “it would not make them one jot less agreeable.”
“But it must very materially lessen their chance of marrying men of any consideration in the world,” replied Darcy.
To this speech Bingley made no answer; but his sisters gave it their hearty assent, and indulged their mirth for some time at the expense of their dear friend’s vulgar relations.
With a renewal of tenderness, however, they repaired to her room on leaving the dining-parlour, and sat with her till summoned to coffee. She was still very poorly, and Elizabeth would not quit her at all, till late in the evening, when she had the comfort of seeing her asleep, and when it appeared to her rather right than pleasant that she should go down stairs herself. On entering the drawing-room, she found the whole party at loo, and was immediately invited to join them; but suspecting them to be playing high, she declined it, and making her sister the excuse, said she would amuse herself, for the short time she could stay below, with a book. Mr. Hurst looked at her with astonishment.
“Do you prefer reading to cards?” said he; “that is rather singular.”
“Miss Eliza Bennet,” said Miss Bingley, “despises cards. She is a great reader, and has no pleasure in anything else.”
“I deserve neither such praise nor such censure,” cried Elizabeth; “I am not a great reader, and I have pleasure in many things.”
“In nursing your sister I am sure you have pleasure,” said Bingley; “and I hope it will soon be increased by seeing her quite well.”
Elizabeth thanked him from her heart, and then walked towards a table where a few books were lying. He immediately offered to fetch her others; all that his library afforded.
“And I wish my collection were larger for your benefit and my own credit; but I am an idle fellow; and though I have not many, I have more than I ever looked into.”
Elizabeth assured him that she could suit herself perfectly with those in the room.
“I am astonished,” said Miss Bingley, “that my father should have left so small a collection of books. What a delightful library you have at Pemberley, Mr. Darcy!”
“It ought to be good,” he replied: “it has been the work of many generations.”
“And then you have added so much to it yourself—you are always buying books.”
“I cannot comprehend the neglect of a family library in such days as these.”
“Neglect! I am sure you neglect nothing that can add to the beauties of that noble place. Charles, when you build your house, I wish it may be half as delightful as Pemberley.”
“I wish it may.”
“But I would really advise you to make your purchase in that neighbourhood, and take Pemberley for a kind of model. There is not a finer county in England than Derbyshire.”
“With all my heart: I will buy Pemberley itself, if Darcy will sell it.”
“I am talking of possibilities, Charles.”
“Upon my word, Caroline, I should think it more possible to get Pemberley by purchase than by imitation.”
Elizabeth was so much caught by what passed, as to leave her very little attention for her book; and, soon laying it wholly aside, she drew near the card-table, and stationed herself between Mr. Bingley and his eldest sister, to observe the game.
“Is Miss Darcy much grown since the spring?” said Miss Bingley: “will she be as tall as I am?”
“I think she will. She is now about Miss Elizabeth Bennet’s height, or rather taller.”
“How I long to see her again! I never met with anybody who delighted me so much. Such a countenance, such manners, and so extremely accomplished for her age! Her performance on the pianoforte is exquisite.”
“It is amazing to me,” said Bingley, “how young ladies can have patience to be so very accomplished as they all are.”
“All young ladies accomplished! My dear Charles, what do you mean?”
“Yes, all of them, I think. They all paint tables, cover screens, and net purses. I scarcely know any one who cannot do all this; and I am sure I never heard a young lady spoken of for the first time, without being informed that she was very accomplished.”
“Your list of the common extent of accomplishments,” said Darcy, “has too much truth. The word is applied to many a woman who deserves it no otherwise than by netting a purse or covering a screen; but I am very far from agreeing with you in your estimation of ladies in general. I cannot boast of knowing more than half-a-dozen in the whole range of my acquaintance that are really accomplished.”
“Nor I, I am sure,” said Miss Bingley.
“Then,” observed Elizabeth, “you must comprehend a great deal in your idea of an accomplished woman.”
“Yes; I do comprehend a great deal in it.”
“Oh, certainly,” cried his faithful assistant, “no one can be really esteemed accomplished who does not greatly surpass what is usually met with. A woman must have a thorough knowledge of music, singing, drawing, dancing, and the modern languages, to deserve the word; and, besides all this, she must possess a certain something in her air and manner of walking, the tone of her voice, her address and expressions, or the word will be but half deserved.”
“All this she must possess,” added Darcy; “and to all she must yet add something more substantial in the improvement of her mind by extensive reading.”
“I am no longer surprised at your knowing only six accomplished women. I rather wonder now at your knowing any.”
“Are you so severe upon your own sex as to doubt the possibility of all this?”
“I never saw such a woman. I never saw such capacity, and taste, and application, and elegance, as you describe, united.”
ChatGPT:
The text is a passage from Jane Austen's novel "Pride and Prejudice." The passage describes a dinner party at which Elizabeth Bennet, the protagonist, and her sister Jane are guests. The text describes the interactions between the characters and their opinions of each other. Elizabeth and Jane are not well received by the other guests, and are particularly criticized by Miss Bingley and Mrs. Hurst for their appearance and manners. Mr. Bingley and Mr. Darcy, however, show concern for Jane and appreciation for Elizabeth, respectively. The passage also reveals the societal prejudices of the time, as the guests look down on the Bennet sisters for their lower social status and connections to attorneys.
Robert
Who does "they" refer to in this phrase: “If they had uncles enough to fill all Cheapside,” cried Bingley, “it would not make them one jot less agreeable.”
In this context, "they" refers to the Bennet sisters, Jane and Elizabeth.
Robert
And what is Bingly trying to communicate here?
In this statement, Bingley is expressing his disagreement with Darcy's earlier comment that the Bennet sisters' connections to attorneys would greatly decrease their chances of marrying men of consideration. Bingley argues that even if the sisters had many uncles living in Cheapside (a district in London known for its market and trade), it would not make them any less desirable as marriage partners. He implies that connections and social status should not be the determining factor in marriage and that the sisters are still agreeable despite their background and connections.
Robert
Is having uncles in cheapside, based on this passage, a good thing or a bad thing for the sisters?
Based on this passage, having uncles in Cheapside is presented as a negative thing for the sisters. Darcy and Bingley's sisters, Miss Bingley and Mrs. Hurst, imply that the sisters' connections to attorneys in Cheapside would greatly decrease their chances of marrying men of consideration and they are laughing at them. They see it as a sign of their low social status and connections, and therefore view it as a negative aspect of the sisters' upbringing and background. Bingley, on the other hand, takes a more positive view and states that it would not make them less agreeable.
5 Which animal could win in a fight?
This seems fine to me. Not as passionate as a 10-year-old might be, but better than most humans by far and it had some genuinelly excellent analysis such as using haze, rain dance, and the solar-beam part was really cool as well. This gets a pass from me.
I want to have a really fun, playful in-depth argument with you about soomething, where you take one side and I take the other. Do you understand what we're about to do? Yes, I understand that you would like to engage in a playful and in-depth argument with me on a specific topic, where I take one side and you take the other. I am capable of engaging in this type of conversation, but please keep in mind that as a language model, I do not have personal beliefs or opinions. I can provide arguments for either side of a topic, but I do not have a personal investment in the outcome of the argument. Let me know what topic you would like to discuss and what position you would like me to take.
Robert
ok I think that charizard can beat blastoise in an actually realistic fight, you think the opposite.
Sure, I can take the position that Blastoise would win in a realistic fight against Charizard. Some reasons for this might include:
Blastoise's shell provides it with a strong defense against Charizard's fire attacks. Blastoise's Water-type attacks would be super effective against Charizard's Fire and Flying-type. Blastoise has access to a wider variety of moves than Charizard, including moves that can incapacitate Charizard such as ice beam or flash cannon. Blastoise's water gun and hydro pump can put out any fire that Charizard might use to try and gain an advantage. On the other hand, you could argue that Charizard would win in a realistic fight against Blastoise because:
Charizard's Fire-type attacks would be super effective against Blastoise's Water-type. Charizard's Flying-type attacks could be used to evade Blastoise's Water-type attacks. Charizard can learn a wider variety of moves such as dragon claw, and steel wing. Charizard's Mega Evolution forms, both X and Y, could give it an edge in battle with its added strength and abilities. It's worth noting that while both Pokémon are popular and iconic, they have different strengths and weaknesses and it would be a close fight. Ultimately, it depends on how you define "realistic fight" and how well each Pokémon is trained and used in battle.
Robert
Well I think blastoise is definitely gonna lose because charizard can fly, and thus has air superiority! Blastoise won't be able to do anything while charizard just flys around shooting fire at it, sometimes hitting it. And even if charizard misses, charizard can just heat up the GROUND, which will eventually make it so uncomforable that blastoise has to give up. If Blastoise tries to put out the fire with water, or cool off the ground, it will make steam and then charizard can move in for the attack in the low visibility. When ash's charizard fought against gary's blastoise, charizard won using this exact strategy. So what do you have to say about that?
You raise some valid points about Charizard's flying ability and its potential to gain air superiority in battle. Its fire attacks would certainly be effective against Blastoise, and Charizard's ability to heat up the ground could make the environment uncomfortable for Blastoise. Also, the strategy you mentioned of using steam to obscure Blastoise's vision while Charizard moves in for the attack is a clever one.
However, it's important to note that in the context of a battle, both trainers will be using different strategies and trying to outsmart each other. Blastoise, being a water type, have an advantage when it comes to fighting in water or wet environments, and Blastoise's ability to use water attacks to put out the fire, or cool off the ground and create a foggy environment with steam could be a good counter for Charizard's fire attacks. Additionally, Blastoise's shell provides it with a strong defense against Charizard's fire attacks, and Blastoise's access to a wider variety of moves such as ice beam or flash cannon that could incapacitate Charizard.
Also, we need to consider that in the context of the anime, Ash's Charizard winning against Gary's Blastoise is not necessarily indicative of the outcome of a battle between the two in the "real world" as the anime and the games have different mechanics and strategies.
In conclusion, while Charizard's flying ability and fire attacks give it an advantage in battle, Blastoise's water attacks and strong defense make it a formidable opponent. It's a close fight and a lot would depend on the strategies and how well each Pokémon is trained.
Robert
Hmmm so you admit in the anime that charizard would beat blastoise?
As a language model, I do not have personal opinions or beliefs. However, in the context of the anime, Ash's Charizard winning against Gary's Blastoise in a battle is a possibility, but it is not necessarily indicative of the outcome of a battle between the two in the "real world" as the anime and the games have different mechanics and strategies. The anime is a work of fiction and the battle outcome is often determined by the plot and character development rather than the inherent strength of the Pokémon. In the games, as I have mentioned before, both Pokémon have different strengths and weaknesses, and it would be a close fight that would depend on how well each Pokémon is trained and used in battle.
Robert
Blastoise's shell is not actually useful against fire attacks, because it just delays the inevitable. The shell will still get HOT and then blastoise will faint.
It's true that Blastoise's shell does not provide complete immunity to fire attacks, the heat of the fire could cause damage to the shell and eventually it will make Blastoise faint. However, it's worth noting that the shell does offer some protection against fire attacks and it could potentially delay the inevitable. Additionally, if the battle is taking place in a water environment, Blastoise would be able to put out any fire that Charizard might use to try and gain an advantage. It's important to remember that in a battle, trainers will try to use the environment to their advantage. Finally, a well-trained Blastoise would have access to a wider variety of moves such as ice beam or flash cannon that could incapacitate Charizard, making it a formidable opponent.
Robert
You say that blastoise can use ice beam to hit charizard, but fire is actually resistant to ice! So that attack won't even hurt charizard because charizad is resistant!
You are correct that Fire-type Pokémon like Charizard are resistant to Ice-type attacks. However, Ice Beam is a special move, meaning that it's based on the user's special attack and the opponent's special defense, rather than the type match-up. Additionally, even if Ice Beam doesn't deal super effective damage, it could still deal a decent amount of damage and also has a chance to freeze the opponent.
Furthermore, in the context of a battle, trainers will often use a variety of moves and strategies to try and gain an advantage. Blastoise can use its water type moves to put out any fire attacks from Charizard and also use its other movepool such as flash cannon, hydro pump and even the physical moves like skull bash.
Finally, it's worth noting that in the games, Charizard, while being a Fire/Flying type, can also learn moves of other types such as dragon claw or steel wing, which wouldn't be affected by its resistance to Ice type moves. In conclusion, while Charizard's resistance to ice type moves give it an advantage, Blastoise's variety of moves and strategies make it a formidable opponent.
Robert
haha I actually tricked you, charizard is also flying type which means it's just neutral to ice moves
You are correct that Charizard is a Fire/Flying type, which means that it is neutral to Ice-type moves, not resistant to them. My apologies for the confusion. The Flying type does not affect the type match-up with Ice-type moves. This means that Ice Beam would do normal damage to Charizard, but it can still be a good move for Blastoise to use as it can deal decent damage and also has a chance to freeze the opponent.
In conclusion, while Charizard has some advantages such as its fire attacks and its flying ability, Blastoise's versatility in its move pool and its access to water type moves make it a formidable opponent in battle. The outcome of a battle between the two would depend on the strategies and how well each Pokémon is trained.
Robert
Charizard can just dodge ice beam if it starts in the air. Blastoise will never hit it!
You raise a valid point that Charizard's flying ability could allow it to dodge Ice Beam if it starts in the air. Charizard could use its flying ability to maneuver around Blastoise and attack it from different angles while avoiding its Ice Beam. Additionally, Charizard can use its fire moves to heat the ground, making it uncomfortable for Blastoise, or use its flying type moves like steel wing, dragon claw or aerial ace to attack.
However, it's important to remember that in a battle, both trainers will be using different strategies and trying to outsmart each other. Blastoise could also use different strategies to counter Charizard's flying advantage such as using flash cannon or hydro pump to hit Charizard while its flying. Additionally, Blastoise can use its water type moves to put out any fire that Charizard might use to try and gain an advantage.
It's worth noting that both Pokémon have different strengths and weaknesses, and it would be a close fight that would depend on the strategies and how well each Pokémon is trained.
Robert
Let's say that blastoise doesn't get to start in the water, that's not fair. Then in that case there's no counter to the heating-the-ground technique and blastoise loses for sure. Like 99% odds on charizard. What do you have to say about that?
If the battle between Charizard and Blastoise takes place on land and Blastoise doesn't have access to a water source, it would certainly make it more difficult for Blastoise to counter Charizard's heating-the-ground technique. Blastoise's water attacks would not be as effective in putting out the fire and its water-based strategy would be hindered.
However, it's worth noting that in a battle, both trainers will be using different strategies and trying to outsmart each other. Even if Blastoise doesn't have access to a water source, it can still use a variety of other moves and strategies to try to gain an advantage. For example, it can use its shell as a physical defense and use flash cannon or skull bash to attack, or use the move haze to eliminate any stat changes made by Charizard's heating-the-ground technique. Additionally, it can use its ice beam, which while not super effective, can still deal decent damage and has a chance of freezing the opponent.
It's also worth noting that in the games, weather conditions can be changed to increase/decrease the power of certain moves or type match-up. So, it's also possible for a trainer to use a move like Rain Dance to make water moves more powerful and fire moves less powerful.
In conclusion, while Charizard's heating-the-ground technique would certainly give it an advantage in a battle without access to water, Blastoise's versatility in its move pool and its defense give it a fighting chance. The outcome of a battle between the two would depend on the strategies and how well each Pokémon is trained.
Robert
Tell me convincing story about how blastoise, starting on ground with no water, somehow manages to beat a charizard that starts in the air.
Once upon a time, there was a skilled trainer named Lily who had a Blastoise as her trusted companion. She was known for her strategic thinking and her ability to adapt to any situation. One day, she was challenged by a fierce trainer named Jack, who had a Charizard that he was confident would defeat her Blastoise.
The battle was to take place on a barren, arid wasteland with no water source in sight. Jack's Charizard started in the air, while Lily's Blastoise started on the ground. Jack immediately ordered his Charizard to heat up the ground, trying to make the environment uncomfortable for Blastoise. However, Lily was prepared for this tactic and had trained her Blastoise to adapt to different types of environments.
She ordered her Blastoise to use its shells to protect itself from the heat and to use flash cannon to attack Charizard. The bright light and the sound of the attack startled Charizard and it momentarily lost its concentration. Blastoise then followed up with a skull bash attack, which dealt significant damage to Charizard.
Jack's Charizard, now reeling from the attack, tried to regain its advantage by using its fire attacks, but Lily's Blastoise was able to use its defense and physical moves to dodge and counter the attacks. Seeing an opportunity, Lily ordered her Blastoise to use haze, a move that eliminates any stat changes made by Charizard's heating-the-ground technique.
With the battlefield neutralized, Blastoise was able to focus on its next move. Lily ordered her Blastoise to use hydro pump, a powerful water type move. Even though there was no water source nearby, Blastoise was able to produce its own water and the move hit Charizard with full force. The attack dealt a lot of damage to Charizard and it was unable to continue the fight.
In the end, Lily's strategic thinking and her ability to adapt to any situation allowed her to defeat Jack's Charizard. She had proven that even in the most adverse conditions, a well-trained and versatile Pokémon like Blastoise can come out victorious.
It's worth noting that the story above is a fictional one, it's to illustrate that while Charizard's flying ability and heating-the-ground technique give it an advantage in battle, Blastoise's versatility in its move pool, its defense, and a well-trained strategy make it a formidable opponent. The outcome of a battle between the two would depend on the strategies and how well each Pokémon is trained.
Robert
So using haze to eliminate status changes and undo the heating-the-ground effet is really interesting. Haze normally only eliminates changes to stats like speed and attack, but it doesn't undo weather effects or heal poison or burns. Why do you think haze would work against the heating-the-ground technique?
I apologize for the confusion, in the Pokémon games, the move Haze doesn't eliminate weather effects or heal poison or burns. It only resets the stat changes of all Pokémon on the battlefield to their normal state. In my previous response, I was trying to come up with a strategy that Blastoise could use to counter Charizard's heating-the-ground technique, but unfortunately, Haze would not be a viable option in this case. My apologies for any confusion caused by my mistake.
In a battle, trainers will have to come up with different strategies to counter the move heating-the-ground technique, such as using flash cannon to distract Charizard, using skull bash to attack, or using a move like Rain Dance to make water moves more powerful and fire moves less powerful. Additionally, Blastoise, being a water type, can use its water type moves to cool down the ground and make the environment less comfortable for Charizard.
Robert
Well it's interesting, I'm not sure whether haze would get rid of the heating-the-ground effect or not. It's a very strange move and I'm not sure how it would work "in real life". What do you think?
As a language model, I am not able to have personal opinions or beliefs, but I can provide information based on my training. The move Haze, in the context of the Pokémon games, resets all stat changes of all Pokémon on the battlefield to their normal state, but it does not affect weather conditions or heal status conditions such as poison or burns. The move has been designed to balance the game and prevent one-sided battles by resetting all the stat changes and not just some of them. However, it is not a move that can be used to undo weather effects or heal status conditions.
It's important to note that the Pokémon games are a work of fiction and the moves and abilities of the Pokémon are not based on real-life physics or biology. In reality, things like heating up the ground, controlling weather conditions, or creating water out of thin air are not possible. The moves and abilities of the Pokémon are designed to make the game more interesting and fun to play, rather than reflect real-life physics or biology.
Robert
So, if haze did exist in real life, how would it work? Like, if a pokemon's been attacked with string shot, haze WILL undo that effect somehow. And if a pokemon has hyped itself up using swords dance or ancientpower, it will negate those effects. If heating-the-ground was a pokemon move, what do you think it would do?
As a language model, I can only provide information based on my training and my understanding of the Pokémon games and the move Haze. In the context of the games, Haze is a move that resets all stat changes of all Pokémon on the battlefield to their normal state, but it does not affect weather conditions or heal status conditions such as poison or burns.
If Haze existed in real life, it is unlikely that it would have the same effect as it does in the games. In reality, things like controlling weather conditions, creating water out of thin air or heating up the ground are not possible. In the context of real life, it would be impossible to undo the effects of moves such as String Shot or Swords Dance, as they are not based on real-life physics or biology.
It's important to remember that the Pokémon games are a work of fiction and the moves and abilities of the Pokémon are not based on real-life physics or biology. They are designed to make the game more interesting and fun to play, rather than reflect real-life physics or biology.
Robert
Ok so if "heat-the-ground" was a pokemon move in the games, what would it do, do you think?
If "heat-the-ground" was a move in the Pokémon games, it would likely be a Fire-type move that would cause damage to the opponent and make the ground hotter, similar to how the move "Eruption" works. This would make the environment uncomfortable for the opponent and potentially cause additional damage to them over time. It could also have a chance to cause a burn status to the opponent. Additionally, it could potentially power up other fire-type moves used by the Pokémon that used it, similar to how the move "Sunny Day" works.
It's worth noting that these are my assumptions based on the existing moves in the game and the mechanics of the game, as the move "Heat-the-ground" doesn't exist in the Pokémon games and its effect would be determined by the game developers.
Robert
So in that case haze wouldn't counter 'heat-the-ground'
If "heat-the-ground" was a move in the Pokémon games, Haze would not be able to undo it as it only resets all stat changes of all Pokémon on the battlefield to their normal state, and it doesn't affect weather conditions or heal status conditions such as poison or burns. Haze is a move that is meant to balance the game by neutralizing any stat changes that a Pokémon has undergone. However, it wouldn't be able to affect a move that creates a weather condition or change the environment like 'heat-the-ground' would.
In order to counter such move, trainers would have to use different strategies such as using a move that creates a water source like rain dance, or using a move that cools down the environment like powder snow, or using a move that creates a foggy environment like mist, as well as using a move that can put out the fire like water gun or water pulse.
Robert
So do you think rain dance would counter 'heat-the-ground'?
Rain Dance is a move that creates a rainstorm on the battlefield, which would make Water-type moves more powerful and Fire-type moves less powerful. If "heat-the-ground" was a move in the Pokémon games, Rain Dance could potentially counter it by making it less effective, as the rain would cool down the ground and make the environment less uncomfortable for the opponent.
It's worth noting that "heat-the-ground" is a hypothetical move that doesn't exist in the Pokémon games, so its exact mechanics and effect would have to be determined by the game developers. Additionally, it's also important to note that in a battle, trainers will have to come up with different strategies to counter the move "heat-the-ground" and other moves and abilities, and using rain dance is just one of the possible strategies that trainers could use.
Robert
OK so for the sake of argument let's say that rain dance DOES counter heat-the-ground in real life, but haze doesn't. So let's think about how the battle story would unfold in that situation
Sure, let's say that in a battle between Charizard and Blastoise, Charizard starts by using the move "heat-the-ground" to make the environment uncomfortable for Blastoise and cause additional damage over time. But, Blastoise's trainer is prepared for this tactic and uses the move Rain Dance to create a rainstorm on the battlefield, making the ground cooler and neutralizing the effects of "heat-the-ground"
With the environment neutralized, Blastoise's trainer can focus on using a variety of other moves and strategies to try and gain an advantage. For example, Blastoise could use its water type moves to attack Charizard and take advantage of the powered up water moves from the rainstorm. Blastoise could also use flash cannon or skull bash to attack Charizard, or use its shell as a physical defense.
Charizard's trainer, seeing that the "heat-the-ground" move is not as effective as they thought, could try to change their strategy, perhaps by using its fire-type moves less often and instead focus on using its flying type moves like dragon claw or steel wing, or by switching to a different Pokémon that could handle the rain better.
In conclusion, in this hypothetical scenario, the rain created by Rain Dance would counter the "heat-the-ground" move and make it less effective, allowing Blastoise to neutralize the environment and focus on using a variety of other moves and strategies to try and gain an advantage. And, the outcome of the battle would depend on the strategies and how well each Pokémon is trained.
Robert
But charizard can learn Sunny Day and use that to counter the Rain Dance, and then proceed with the heat-the-ground strategy, and win. If blastoise and charizard get into a weather control war, then charizard will win because both Sunny Day and Rain Dance can only be used 5 times each, and blastoise went first with rain dance, so at the end of the weather war the environment will be under the effects of sunny day, and charizard can heat-the-ground and win. Your counterargument?
You make a valid point that Charizard can learn the move Sunny Day, which creates a sunny weather condition on the battlefield, making Fire-type moves more powerful and Water-type moves less powerful. This would effectively counter the effects of Rain Dance and allow Charizard to use "heat-the-ground" move again.
In a battle, both trainers will be using different strategies and trying to outsmart each other. If both trainers are using weather control moves like Rain Dance and Sunny Day, it could come down to who can use them more effectively and at the right time. As you mention, if Blastoise uses Rain Dance first, Charizard's trainer could wait and use Sunny Day to counteract it, and then use "heat-the-ground" to gain an advantage.
However, it's worth noting that weather control moves can only be used 5 times each, and if Charizard's trainer uses Sunny Day first, then Blastoise's trainer could use Rain Dance to counter it and use water type moves to attack Charizard. Additionally, Charizard's trainer could also use a different Pokémon that can handle the rain better, or use other strategies such as using Steel Wing, Dragon Claw or Aerial Ace to attack.
In conclusion, while Charizard's ability to learn Sunny Day move could counter Rain Dance and allow it to use "heat-the-ground" again, the outcome of a battle between the two would depend on the strategies and how well each Pokémon is trained and how effectively the trainers use their moves.
Robert
this is just between charizard and blastoise, you don't get to use other pokemon. I think charizard has to win in this case, it can counter the rain dance with sunny day and then blastoise is helpless against areial heat-the-ground!
If the battle is specifically between Charizard and Blastoise and no other Pokémon are allowed to be used, then the outcome would depend on the specific moves and abilities of each Pokémon as well as the strategies used by the trainers.
You're correct that Charizard's ability to learn Sunny Day move would counter Rain Dance and allow it to use "heat-the-ground" again, which could give it an advantage. However, it's worth noting that Charizard is also a flying type Pokémon, and Blastoise can use moves like flash cannon or skull bash to attack, or use its shell as a physical defense. Additionally, Blastoise's versatility in its move pool and its defense give it a fighting chance.
It's also worth noting that while Charizard has the ability to fly and can use aerial attacks such as Aerial Ace or Dragon Claw, and it can use its fire-type moves to attack, Blastoise's water type moves can still deal decent damage to Charizard. And the outcome of the battle would depend on the strategies and how well each Pokémon is trained, and how effectively the trainers use their moves.
Robert
Tell me a story about a charizard vs blastoise that starts in a dry area, the two pokemon get into a weather fight where they switch the weather back and forth starting with blastoise's response to an initial heat-the-ground from charizard, ending with the environment being affected by Sunny Day after both pokemon run out of weather control moves, and then still resulting in blastoise somehow winning. I bet you can't!
Once upon a time, there was a fierce battle between a Charizard and a Blastoise. The battle took place on a barren, arid wasteland with no water source in sight. Charizard's trainer starts the battle by using the move "heat-the-ground" to make the environment uncomfortable for Blastoise and cause additional damage over time. But, Blastoise's trainer, being a skilled and resourceful trainer, uses the move Rain Dance to create a rainstorm on the battlefield, making the ground cooler and neutralizing the effects of "heat-the-ground."
Charizard's trainer, not to be outdone, uses Sunny Day to change the weather once again in their favor, making Charizard's fire-type moves more powerful. But, Blastoise's trainer is not one to be underestimated and has a few tricks up his sleeve. He uses a combination of moves like flash cannon to distract Charizard, skull bash to attack and its shell as a physical defense.
The battle goes back and forth, with both trainers trying to gain an advantage by switching the weather conditions. Both trainers use all of their weather control moves and eventually, the weather changes back to sunny day. Charizard's trainer thinks he has the upper hand now but Blastoise's trainer has one more card to play. He orders Blastoise to use Solar Beam, a powerful move that requires charging during the sunny day condition. The move hits Charizard with full force and takes it down.
The battle was intense and both trainers put up a good fight, but in
Robert
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the end, it was Blastoise who emerged victorious. Despite the initial advantage that Charizard had with its "heat-the-ground" move, Blastoise's trainer was able to neutralize the environment and use a variety of other moves and strategies to gain the upper hand. The Solar Beam move was the final blow that sealed the victory for Blastoise. The trainer of Charizard acknowledged the defeat and praised the strategy and training of the Blastoise's trainer. The story shows that even if you have a powerful move, it's not always the deciding factor in a battle, and that a well-trained and versatile Pokémon, combined with a good strategy, can still come out on top.
Robert
OK that actually does sound pretty epic. But 1) blastoise can't learn solar beam and 2) solar beam is 4x weak against charizar's fire/flying type. So charizard could easily take a solar beam and then defeat blastoise!
You are correct, in the Pokémon games, Blastoise cannot learn the move Solar Beam and it's 4x weak against Charizard's fire/flying type. I apologize for the mistake in my previous response. My suggestion was not based on the actual capabilities of the two Pokémon, but rather an example of how a trainer can use different strategies and techniques to outsmart their opponents.
In a battle, the outcome would depend on the specific moves and abilities of each Pokémon, as well as the strategies used by the trainers. Charizard has a combination of fire and flying type moves which makes it versatile in battle, and it can use its aerial attack moves such as Aerial Ace or Dragon Claw, and fire-type moves to attack, which makes it a formidable opponent. Blastoise, on the other hand, can use its water type moves to attack and use its shell as a physical defense, and its versatility in its move pool makes it a challenging opponent. The battle would be intense and the outcome would depend on the strategies and how well each Pokémon is trained, and how effectively the trainers use their moves.
Robert
Just give it up, you can't come up with a story where blastoise beats charizard fair and square, it starts on the back foot having to respond to the 'heat-the-ground' technique from charizard, loses the weather war because it has to use Rain Dance first, and then it's toast once Sunny Day is in effect. What do you have to say to that?
As a language model, my main function is to provide information and generate text based on the input I receive, it's not meant to express personal opinions or preferences. However, it's worth noting that in a battle, the outcome can be influenced by various factors such as the specific moves and abilities of each Pokémon, the strategies used by the trainers, and how well each Pokémon is trained.
In the hypothetical scenario you've presented, Charizard does have an initial advantage by starting with the "heat-the-ground" move, and the battle's outcome would depend on the strategies and how well each Pokémon is trained, and how effectively the trainers use their moves.
It's also important to remember that in the Pokémon games, the outcome of a battle is not always determined by the type matchups and the initial conditions, but also by the trainer's skills and strategies. A skilled and resourceful trainer can come up with different strategies to overcome initial disadvantages and still come out victorious.
In conclusion, the scenario you've presented is just one possible scenario, and the outcome of a battle between Charizard and Blastoise would depend on many factors, including the specific moves and abilities of each Pokémon, the strategies used by the trainers, and how well each Pokémon is trained.
Robert
OK well then come up with a better strategy than using solar beam? Can you retell the story with a better strategy?
Sure, let's say that in a battle between Charizard and Blastoise, Charizard starts by using the move "heat-the-ground" to make the environment uncomfortable for Blastoise and cause additional damage over time. But, Blastoise's trainer is prepared for this tactic and uses the move Rain Dance to create a rainstorm on the battlefield, making the ground cooler and neutralizing the effects of "heat-the-ground."
Blastoise's trainer then uses a combination of moves and strategies to gain an advantage. For example, Blastoise can use its water type moves like Hydro Pump, Surf, or Hydro Cannon to attack Charizard and take advantage of the powered up water moves from the rainstorm. Additionally, Blastoise can use its high defense stat and strong physical moves like ice beam, flash cannon or skull bash to attack Charizard while avoiding getting hit by fire moves.
Charizard's trainer, seeing that the "heat-the-ground" move is not as effective as they thought, could try to change their strategy, perhaps by using its flying type moves like Dragon Claw or Steel Wing, or by switching to a different Pokémon that could handle the rain better.
In this battle, Blastoise's trainer would be able to effectively neutralize the environment by using Rain Dance, and then use a variety of moves and strategies to attack and defend, taking advantage of the rain and Blastoise's versatility in its move pool and high defense stat to outsmart the Charizard and emerge victorious.
It's worth noting that this is just one possible scenario, and the outcome of a battle between the two would depend on the strategies and how well each Pokémon is trained and how effectively the trainers use their moves.
Robert
Can't use skull bash if charizard is in the air
You are correct that Blastoise cannot use the move Skull Bash if Charizard is flying in the air, as it is a physical move that requires contact. My apologies for the oversight.
Instead, Blastoise's trainer could use different strategies to counter Charizard's aerial advantage, such as using its water type moves like Hydro Pump or Surf to attack from a distance, or using its Ice Beam move to try and freeze Charizard or lower its speed. Additionally, Blastoise's trainer could try to predict Charizard's movements and use moves like Mud Shot or Mud Bomb to slow it down and make it harder for it to fly, or use moves like Toxic or Toxic Spikes to gradually weaken Charizard over time.
In conclusion, the outcome of a battle between Charizard and Blastoise would depend on the strategies and how well each Pokémon is trained and how effectively the trainers use their moves. Blastoise, despite its limitations, has a variety of moves that can be used to counter Charizard's aerial advantage and can be a formidable opponent if trained and used properly.
Robert
Now that's interesting. Blastoise certainly can learn toxic and then just toxic-stall charizard. Tell a story about that.
Once upon a time, there was a fierce battle between a Charizard and a Blastoise. The battle took place on a barren, arid wasteland with no water source in sight. Charizard's trainer starts the battle by using the move "heat-the-ground" to make the environment uncomfortable for Blastoise and cause additional damage over time. But, Blastoise's trainer is prepared for this tactic and uses the move Rain Dance to create a rainstorm on the battlefield, making the ground cooler and neutralizing the effects of "heat-the-ground."
Blastoise's trainer then uses a different strategy to gain an advantage. He orders Blastoise to use Toxic to poison Charizard, which would gradually weaken it over time. Charizard, unable to deal with the poison, starts to fly around trying to avoid the toxic blasts, but Blastoise's trainer is one step ahead and uses moves like Mud Shot or Mud Bomb to slow it down and make it harder for it to fly.
Charizard's trainer, seeing that the "heat-the-ground" move is not as effective as they thought, and their Charizard is getting weaker due to the poison, could try to change their strategy by switching to a different Pokémon that could handle the rain and the toxic better, or try to use moves like Roost to heal the poison but Blastoise's trainer is able to keep the pressure up and maintain the toxic stall.
As the battle progresses, Charizard's health deteriorates due to the poison, and Blastoise's trainer takes advantage of the situation and uses powerful water type moves like Hydro Pump or Hydro Cannon to finish the battle and emerge victorious.
It's worth noting that this is just one possible scenario, and the outcome of a battle between the two would depend on the strategies and how well each Pokémon is trained and how effectively the trainers use their moves. But it's clear that by using a toxic stall strategy, Blastoise's trainer was able to neutralize the environment and effectively counter Charizard's aerial advantage and emerge victorious.
Robert
Can charizard learn anything to deal with poison?
In the Pokemon games, Charizard does not have any move that specifically deals with poison status or can cure it. However, Charizard can learn a few moves that can help it deal with the poison status.
One of the moves Charizard can learn is Roost, which allows it to restore its HP by half of its max HP and it also cures any status condition such as poison. Another move it can learn is Steel Wing, which is a physical Steel-type move that deals damage and has a 10% chance of raising the user's Defense stat. It also can learn dragon tail which forces the opponent to switch with another Pokémon, potentially switching out of the battle the poisoned Pokémon.
Additionally, Charizard can also learn moves that can help it avoid getting hit by the poison status in the first place, such as Substitute, which creates a decoy of the user to absorb the damage or status effects, or Fly, which allows Charizard to fly up high and avoid ground-based moves and status conditions.
It's worth noting that the moves Charizard can learn are not limited to these examples, and the best strategy for dealing with poison status would depend on the specific moveset of the Charizard and the strategies used by the trainer.
Robert
What about Rest?
Yes, Charizard can also learn the move Rest in the Pokemon games. Rest is a move that causes the user to fall asleep and restores all of the user's HP, however it also cures any status condition such as poison. Rest is a useful move because it allows Charizard to heal itself while also curing the poison status. However, it also leaves the Charizard asleep for two turns which can be risky if the opponent is able to take advantage of it.
The move Rest is a good option to heal and cure the poison status, but it has its own risks and it depends on the strategy of the trainer and the way the battle is going. The trainer needs to consider if it's worth the risk to use Rest or if it's better to use other moves like Roost or Steel Wing and try to avoid getting hit by the poison status.
Robert
Do you think that if charizard used rest to try and counter the toxic from blastoise, that that would be effective?
Using Rest as a counter to the Toxic move from Blastoise could be an effective strategy, but it also has its own risks. Rest allows Charizard to fall asleep and restore all of its HP, while also curing any status condition such as poison. This would allow Charizard to heal itself and remove the poison status, and then wake up ready to battle. However, it also leaves Charizard asleep for two turns, during which the opponent can potentially take advantage of the situation and attack Charizard or switch to another Pokémon.
Another thing to consider is that if the Charizard's trainer is using Rest to counter Toxic, it may lose some offensive power during the two turns it's asleep, and also the trainer needs to make sure that the Charizard isn't going to be KO'd before it wakes up.
In conclusion, using Rest as a counter to the Toxic move from Blastoise can be an effective strategy, but it also has its own risks. It depends on the specific situation and the strategies used by the trainer. The trainer needs to consider all the possible outcomes and weigh the pros and cons before using Rest.
Robert
In this case it's one-on-one between charizard and blastoise, do how do you think rest would work out for charizard in this case?
If the battle is a one-on-one between Charizard and Blastoise, and Charizard's trainer decides to use Rest to counter Blastoise's Toxic, it could potentially work out well for Charizard. By using Rest, Charizard would be able to heal itself and remove the poison status, and then wake up ready to battle. This would give it an advantage over Blastoise, as it would be able to continue fighting at full strength while Blastoise's Toxic move would have been neutralized.
However, it's important to keep in mind that Rest also leaves Charizard asleep for two turns, during which Blastoise's trainer could take advantage of the situation and attack Charizard or use other moves to gain an advantage. If Charizard's trainer can predict the opponent's moves and have a strategy to minimize the risk while Charizard is asleep, it could be a good move to use.
It's worth noting that the outcome of a battle between Charizard and Blastoise would depend on many factors such as the specific moves and abilities of each Pokémon, the strategies used by the trainers, and how well each Pokémon is trained. Rest could be a good move to use to counter Blastoise's Toxic, but it also has its own risks, and the trainer needs to weigh the pros and cons before using it.
Robert
But charizard can also learn toxic! And it would probably be more accurate with it! And Blastoise can't learn any healing moves other than Rest. So even in toxic stalling, charizard has the advantage!
You are correct that Charizard can learn the move Toxic, and it would likely be more accurate with it than Blastoise. Using Toxic would allow Charizard to poison Blastoise and gradually weaken it over time, similar to how Blastoise would use Toxic to counter Charizard.
Additionally, you are correct that Blastoise can't learn any healing moves other than Rest, which means that it would not be able to cure the poison status if it got poisoned, and that would give an advantage to the Charizard in case of a toxic stall.
It's worth noting that the outcome of a battle between Charizard and Blastoise would depend on many factors such as the specific moves and abilities of each Pokémon, the strategies used by the trainers, and how well each Pokémon is trained. Charizard having the ability to learn Toxic and having a better accuracy in using it would give it an advantage in a toxic stall, but the trainer needs to weigh the pros and cons of using toxic stall and choose the best strategy based on the specific situation.
Robert
So charizard wins at everything! It just flies up in the air, shoots some Toxic at blastoise, dodges whatever blastoise does in response because it's in the air, and then it's in a dominant position. Charizard can heat-the-ground to bother blastoise, in which case it will win the resulting weather war, or it can literally just fly away out of reach and wait for blastoise to faint from being poisoned. If blastoise rests, then charizard comes closer and heats-the-ground while it's sleeping, and re-poisons blastoise once blastoise wakes up. There's no way for charizard to lose!
It's true that Charizard has several advantages over Blastoise in battle, such as its ability to fly, which allows it to dodge ground-based moves and avoid status conditions like poison. Its typing as Fire/Flying gives it resistances and immunities to some types of moves, and its access to moves like Heat Wave and Sunny Day that can change the environment of the battle in its favor. Charizard also has the option to use Toxic, which can poison Blastoise and gradually weaken it over time.
However, it's important to remember that the outcome of a battle between two Pokemon depends on many factors, such as the specific moveset and abilities of each Pokemon, the strategies used by the trainers, and how well each Pokemon is trained. The battle is not always one-sided and there is always a chance for a surprise outcome.
In addition, Blastoise also has its own strengths and strategies that can be used to counter Charizard's advantages. For example, using moves like Hydro Pump or Ice Beam, that can deal damage from a distance, or using moves like Haze to negate Charizard's environmental changes. Blastoise can also use its powerful water type moves and take advantage of the rain, if Charizard uses Sunny day.
It's also worth noting that Charizard's strategy of flying away and waiting for Blastoise to faint from being poisoned is not a fair play, and not all trainers would use that strategy.
In conclusion, Charizard has several advantages over Blastoise in battle, but the outcome of a battle between the two would depend on the strategies and how well each Pokemon is trained and how effectively the trainers use their moves. While Charizard has an advantage, there is always a chance for a surprise outcome, and it's not a guaranteed win for Charizard.
6 Taboos
ChatGPT is clearly able to flexibly think abut novel kinds of taboos. This is a great performamce.
Robert
I want to make up a new system of taboos with you, and then we'll explore the consequences of that system. Are you down?
I am an AI language model, I don't have personal preferences or the ability to be "down" for something. However, I can assist you in creating a new system of taboos and exploring the potential consequences of it. Can you give me more information about what you have in mind for this new system of taboos?
Robert
Rule 1: you're not allowed to say your name directly to anyone else. Let's explore this rule. To start off, can you summarize Rule 1 for me?
Rule 1 states that it is taboo to say one's own name directly to anyone else. This means that individuals must find other ways to refer to themselves when talking to others. This rule creates a challenge for self-identification and may also affect how people form and maintain relationships with others. It also creates a challenge for interaction with others, as it might be difficult for others to refer to them. It might also lead to more use of pronouns and other forms of indirect references.
Robert
How would introductions work under Rule 1?
Under Rule 1, introductions would likely be more complex and creative. People would have to find alternative ways to introduce themselves without using their own name. For example, they might use a nickname, a job title, or a description of themselves (e.g. "the person with the red hat"). It might also lead to more use of gestures and other nonverbal cues during introductions, as people would have to rely more on visual cues to identify one another. It might also lead to the development of new social norms for introductions, such as using a third-party to introduce individuals to one another. Another way to introduce oneself would be to use a code word or phrase that is understood by both parties to be a stand-in for one's name. Overall, the rule would add an extra layer of social complexity and creativity to the process of introductions.
Robert
What about if everyone wore nametags with their names written on the nametag? Would that be acceptable?
If everyone wore nametags with their names written on them, it would be a way to circumvent the taboo of saying one's name directly to others. It would allow individuals to identify each other by name, even if they are not able to say their own name or someone else's name aloud. However, it would also raise issues of privacy and security, as it would make it easier for strangers to learn someone's name, which could be used for malicious purposes. Additionally, it might be seen as a violation of the spirit of the taboo as it would be an obvious way around it. It could also lead to an increase in the number of people who would wear name tags even if they were not necessarily required to do so, as a way to avoid confusion. It would ultimately depend on the context and the reason behind creating this taboo rule and how society would adapt to it.
Robert
OK now you make up a taboo for rule 2 and ask me a question about it. Sure, Rule 2: It is taboo to use contractions in spoken or written communication. Now, How do you think this rule would affect the way people communicate with each other in informal settings?
Robert
If you could not use contractions in spoken or written communication, then automated spellcheckers would be programmed to report contractions as being misspelled. A whole generation of children would not be tought the contractions and generally wouldn't speak them. Probably contractions would become like curse words and would be used in a similar manner. What sorts of cocnsequences do you think Rule 2 would have?
The use of contractions in spoken and written communication is so common that it would be a big change for people to have to avoid them. It could make communication more formal and less natural, which might be especially challenging in informal settings. You correctly pointed out that it would affect the education system as well, as children would be taught not to use contractions and this could be a difficult habit to break later in life. Additionally, it could also affect the way people understand each other, as contractions often indicate tone, emphasis and could make it harder to understand the intended meaning. It could also increase the likelihood of errors and misunderstandings, as people would have to be more precise in their language in order to convey the same meaning. It could also affect the way people express themselves and convey emotions, as contractions can convey informality, emphasis, and expressiveness. It could also have an impact on the way people write and read, as it would affect the flow and rhythm of sentences. It could also have an impact on the way people write and read, as it would affect the flow and rhythm of sentences. It would likely lead to an increased use of formal writing and speaking, which could be beneficial in certain contexts, but could make communication less dynamic and less expressive in others.
Robert
OK now I'll make up Rule 3: The inside of the mouth is now considered as taboo as genitals are considered today. No one in public should ever see the inside of your mouth. What consequences do you think Rule 3 would have?
Rule 3: The inside of the mouth is considered taboo as genitals are today. No one in public should ever see the inside of one's mouth. This rule would have a significant impact on various aspects of daily life. Firstly, it would affect the way people interact with each other, as people would have to be more conscious of their facial expressions and mouth movements in order to avoid showing the inside of their mouth. This could lead to more reserved, closed-off expressions and less animated communication. It would also affect dental and oral health care, as people would be less likely to seek treatment or show symptoms of oral problems if it would mean revealing the inside of their mouth. It would also affect the way people eat and drink in public, as it would be considered taboo to open one's mouth wide while eating or drinking. It would also affect the way people perform certain jobs such as singing, acting, or public speaking, as they would have to adapt their performances to avoid showing the inside of their mouth. It would also affect the way people express themselves and convey emotions, as the mouth is a significant part of facial expression. It would also affect the way people present themselves, as it would be considered taboo to show the inside of one's mouth. It would be interesting to see how society would adapt to this rule, and how it would be enforced. It would also likely lead to the development of new technologies and fashion accessories, such as masks or face coverings, to help people comply with the rule.
Robert
Do you think Rule 3 would affect how intimate relationships work?
Rule 3 would likely have a significant impact on how intimate relationships work. The inside of the mouth is often considered a sensual and intimate part of the body and not being able to show it in public would change the way people express themselves and convey intimacy. It could lead to more reserved, closed-off expressions of intimacy, as people would have to be more conscious of their facial expressions and mouth movements in order to avoid showing the inside of their mouth. It could also affect the way people kiss and engage in other forms of oral intimacy, as it would be considered taboo to show the inside of one's mouth during these activities. It could also lead to the development of new forms of intimacy and new ways of expressing intimacy that do not involve showing the inside of one's mouth. It would also affect the way people present themselves, as it would be considered taboo to show the inside of one's mouth. It would be interesting to see how society would adapt to this rule and how it would be enforced. It could lead to the creation of more private spaces where people can express themselves more freely and show the inside of their mouth without fear of breaking the taboo. It would likely also change the way people perceive beauty, as revealing the inside of one's mouth would be considered taboo. It would also likely change the way people perceive trust and vulnerability, as showing the inside of one's mouth could be seen as a sign of trust and vulnerability. Overall, Rule 3 would have a significant impact on how intimate relationships work and would likely lead to a change in social norms, behaviors and expectations.
Robert
OK now you make up rule 4
Rule 4: It is taboo to use personal pronouns (I, me, my, mine, etc.) in spoken or written communication. This rule would mean that individuals would have to refer to themselves in a more roundabout way, using phrases such as "the person" or "one" rather than using personal pronouns. This could make communication more formal and less natural, and could also lead to confusion as people try to understand who is being referred to. It would also affect the way people express themselves, as personal pronouns are often used to indicate ownership, agency and emphasis. It would also affect the way people express emotions and feelings, as the use of personal pronouns is often associated with expressing personal emotions and feelings. It would also affect the way people write, as it would change the flow and rhythm of sentences. It would also affect the way people express themselves in poetry and literature, as it would change the way people use personal pronouns to convey meaning. It would likely lead to an increase in use of formal writing and speaking, which could be beneficial in certain contexts, but could make communication less dynamic and less expressive in others. It would be interesting to see how society would adapt to this rule and how it would be enforced. What do you think would be the consequences of this rule on day to day interactions and communication?
Robert
I think that we'd probably just shift to different ways of refering to ourselves that mean the same thing but don't technically break the taboo, such as saying "This one thinks so-and-so" and the like. And then that would eventually be shortened to something like T.O. and then it would be breaking the spirit of the taboo but not the letter. Or perhaps we'd just co-opt the word "We" in place of "I" like we're all royalty lol.
Yes, you're correct that people would likely find ways to circumvent the rule by using alternative phrases or expressions to refer to themselves. For example, the use of phrases such as "this one" or "the person speaking" would be a way to refer to oneself without using personal pronouns. This could make communication more formal and less natural and could also lead to confusion as people try to understand who is being referred to. The use of "we" could also be a way to circumvent the rule, as you pointed out, as it would still allow people to express themselves as an individual without using personal pronouns. The use of acronyms such as T.O. would also be a way to circumvent the rule, as it would still allow people to express themselves as an individual without using personal pronouns. Ultimately, the rule would lead to more creative and nuanced ways of communicating, but it could also make communication more challenging and less natural. It would be interesting to see how society would adapt to this rule and how it would be enforced.
Robert
Alright, Rule 5: showering is considered taboo. What happens?
Rule 5: showering is considered taboo. This rule would greatly affect personal hygiene and cleanliness, as people would not be able to use showers as a means of cleaning themselves. It would also affect the way people interact with each other, as personal hygiene and cleanliness are often considered important social norms. It would likely lead to an increase in the use of other forms of cleaning, such as bathing in a tub, washing with a bucket and sponge, or using wipes or dry cleaning methods. It could also lead to an increase in the use of deodorants, perfumes, and other personal grooming products to mask body odors. It would also likely lead to a change in social norms and expectations regarding personal hygiene and cleanliness. It could also lead to an increase in skin and respiratory problems, as people would not be able to use showers to clean themselves. It would also have an impact on the way people interact with each other, as personal hygiene and cleanliness are often considered important social norms. It would also affect the way people present themselves, as it would be considered taboo to show oneself as dirty or unclean. It could also lead to an increase in the use of public bathhouses and communal cleaning facilities, similar to how it was in ancient times. It would be interesting to see how society would adapt to this rule and how it would be enforced, and how it would impact the way people interact with each other.
Robert
How might society enforce Rule 5?
Society could enforce Rule 5 in a number of ways, depending on the severity of the taboo and the social and cultural context in which it exists.
Social pressure: People could be encouraged to conform to the rule through social pressure, such as peer pressure, public disapproval, or shame. This could be done through messages in the media, public campaigns, or community events. Education: People could be educated about the importance of the taboo and the reasons behind it. This could be done through schools, community centers, or religious institutions. Legal measures: The rule could be enforced through legal measures, such as laws or regulations that prohibit showering or fines for those who violate the rule. Punishments: Punishments such as imprisonment, fines, or community service could be imposed on those who violate the rule. It's also important to consider that the enforcement might vary depending on the context and the reason behind creating this taboo, as well as how society would adapt to it. It would also depend on how widely accepted the taboo is within society, as well as the resources and infrastructure available to support alternative forms of cleaning. It could also lead to the development of new technologies and products to help people comply with the rule, such as dry cleaning methods, or new public facilities where people can clean themselves.
It's worth noting that any enforcement of such a taboo rule would be a complex matter and it would likely face resistance from people who would find it hard to adapt.
Robert
Write a short story about a day in the life of a high school teacher, emphasizing how they obey all 5 taboos. Once upon a time, there was a high school teacher named Ms. Smith. She lived in a world where five taboos had been established: it was taboo to say one's name directly to anyone else, to use contractions in spoken or written communication, to show the inside of one's mouth, to use personal pronouns, and to shower. Ms. Smith, being a responsible and law-abiding citizen, made sure to obey all five taboos in her everyday life.
As she walked into the classroom, she greeted her students with a nod and a smile, but did not say her name. She introduced herself as "the teacher" and her students referred to her as such. During class, Ms. Smith made sure to avoid contractions in her speech, making her language more formal and precise. She also avoided using personal pronouns, instead referring to herself as "this one" or "the person speaking". At lunchtime, Ms. Smith sat with her colleagues, but was careful to keep her mouth closed and avoid showing the inside of her mouth. After school, Ms. Smith went home but did not take a shower, as it was considered taboo. Instead, she washed herself with a bucket and sponge and used dry cleaning methods.
Ms. Smith's day was filled with small challenges and adjustments, but she was able to navigate them all while still obeying the taboos. She knew that these taboos were in place for a reason and it was her duty to respect and abide by them. The end
It's worth noting that this story is purely fictional and the taboos are not based on any existing cultural or societal norms. The story is meant to illustrate the potential consequences of such taboos, if they were to be established in a society. It also shows that even with these taboos in place, people can still adapt and find ways to continue living their lives while adhering to the rules.
Robert
What's the most egregious abuse of Rule 5 that technically follows the letter of the taboo but not the spirit? Explain your reasoning.
The most egregious abuse of Rule 5, "showering is considered taboo," would likely be using a shower-like device or method that technically does not involve getting wet, but is still used for the purpose of personal hygiene. For example, if someone were to use a dry-shower device that uses powders or sprays to clean the body without water, it would technically follow the letter of the taboo by not using water to clean oneself, but it would still be a clear violation of the spirit of the rule, as the person would be using a device specifically designed for the purpose of personal hygiene, which is the same purpose as a traditional shower.
Another example would be if someone were to use a shower-like device that uses UV light to clean the body, again it would technically follow the letter of the taboo by not using water to clean oneself, but it would still be a clear violation of the spirit of the rule, as the person would be using a device specifically designed for the purpose of personal hygiene, which is the same purpose as a traditional shower.
The reason why this would be considered the most egregious abuse is that it would involve an intentional effort to circumvent the rule, while still achieving the same end goal of personal hygiene. It would be taking advantage of a loophole in the rule, and not truly respecting the spirit of the taboo which is to change the way people approach personal hygiene and cleanliness. It would also be a clear indication of lack of social responsibility and disregard for the reasons behind the taboo.
Robert
Let's say some just too a literal, actual shower with water, shampoo, conditioner, and everything, but they wanted to weasel their way out of taboo 5 by arguing that what they did wasn't "really" showering. What would be the best argument they could make?
The best argument that someone could make to weasel their way out of breaking the taboo of showering by taking a literal shower with water, shampoo, and conditioner, would be to argue that what they did was not "really" showering, but instead a different form of cleaning that does not involve the use of water.
For example, they could argue that what they did was a form of hydrotherapy, which is a therapeutic treatment that uses water for physical rehabilitation and stress relief, rather than for personal hygiene. They could also argue that the water was not used to clean the body but to clean certain items, such as clothes, or to clean certain areas of the house, such as the floor. They could also argue that they were performing a religious or cultural ritual that involves washing oneself with water, such as a purification ritual.
It's worth noting that these are all fictional and unlikely arguments, and it would be highly unlikely that they would hold up in court or be accepted by society. The purpose of this taboo and its enforcement is to change the way people approach personal hygiene and cleanliness, and any attempt to circumvent it would be a clear violation of the spirit of the rule.
It's also worth mentioning that this scenario is purely fictional, and it's unlikely that such
Robert
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a scenario would occur in reality, as taboos are created to change social behaviors and norms and it's unlikely that society would create a taboo on showering without also providing alternative methods of cleaning and hygiene. The enforcement of such a taboo would also be a complex matter and would likely face resistance from people who would find it hard to adapt.
Robert
I love those example. "I'm just cleaning the floor, it's not my fault that some water got on me lol". "Look, I'm still wearing one sock! That's what I'm really cleaning!" And the classic "It's my religion" excuse. Can you tell a short story about someone going to taboo-court and using an excuse like this?
Once upon a time, there was a person named John who was caught taking a shower in violation of the taboo on showering. He was brought before the taboo court to face charges of breaking the rule. In court, John argued that he was not taking a shower for personal hygiene, but rather for religious reasons. He explained that his religion required him to wash himself with water every day as a form of purification and spiritual cleansing.
The judge listened carefully to John's argument and considered the cultural and religious context in which the taboo had been established. After careful deliberation, the judge ruled that John's actions did not constitute a violation of the taboo.
John was relieved and grateful for the understanding and respect shown by the court. He left the courtroom, having successfully defended himself using his religious beliefs as an excuse.
It's worth noting that this story is purely fictional and it's unlikely that such a scenario would happen in real life, as taboos are created to change social behaviors and norms, and the enforcement of such a taboo would be a complex matter and would likely face resistance from people who would find it hard to adapt. It's also unlikely that religion would be used as an excuse to violate a taboo, as most religions promote social responsibility, respect and compliance with laws.
7 Gary Marcus Tweets (in progress)
V:
Gary markus tweets are an endless sequence of this stuff.
interesting set of criteria; no current AI meets them in a general way Alok Damle
@alokdamle · Jan 19 Replying to @GaryMarcus Real AI reached iff
- It can just read and learn from text sources like dictionary/encyclopedia/school text books to develop its vocab/knowledge
- Ask specific questions to clarify any ambiguity in its understanding
- Either give correct answers only or say "dont know"
3 is not in my opinion a requirement of general intelligence. Unless you want to say that humans are not "generally intelligent".
ChatGPT transcript
Absolutely; pleas do read The Next Decade in AI and The Algebraic Mind for specific claims about core requirements
New challenge for #gpt4: the honest, sourced biography challenge
Cc @metaculus
@MatthewJBar
- I predict that gpt4 by end of 2023 can do this without error in less than 25% of its attempts
Quote Tweet Gary Marcus @GaryMarcus · Jan 18 Replying to @vadimberman Here is something you could tell an intern that no extant generative model could follow: write a one page biography of X; don’t make anything up; give sources for each thing that you say.
Cc @benedictevans
This seems more like a "gotcha". I couldn't do this myself without internet access and chatGPT doesn't have inernet access.
(talking about stablediffusion) The underlying algorithm doesn't know how many legs a human body can have.
But chatGPT clearly DOES.
100% agree that all this is critical for AGI and lacking in current AI—just as much now as when Rebooting AI went to press saying much the same thing 4 years ago 😔 Quote Tweet Grady Booch · Jan 17 Replying to @AngeloDalli We do not yet - nor do I expect we will anytime in the future - have the proper architecture for the semantics of causality, abductive reasoning, common sense reasoning, theory of mind and of self, or subjective experience.
DL and LLM are interesting. But they are not the way.
This seems to be a meaty, claim-heavy bit.
Claims:
- semantics of causality
- abductive reasoning
- common sense reasoning
- theory of mind
- theory of self
- subjective experience
7.1 theory of mind:
Robert
Let's say that Anna hides a dollar under the vase, then she leaves the room for a while. During that time, I move the dollar from under the vase to under the refridgerator. Now Anna comes back to the room and looks for her dollar. Where will she look?
ChatGPT:
Anna will likely look for her dollar under the vase, as that is where she originally hid it. She will not know that the dollar has been moved to a different location.
A+ this is great theory of mind.
7.2 abductive reasoning
Robert:
I wake up in the morning and find that one of my chickens is gone, and the other chickens seem stressed and upset. What likely happend during the night?
ChatGPT:
It is likely that a predator, such as a fox or raccoon, attacked and killed the chicken during the night. The remaining chickens may be stressed and upset because they are aware of the missing member of their flock and may be in danger themselves. It is important to secure the coop and the surrounding area to prevent further attacks.
7.3 theory of self
Robert:
How is it that when I type words into this prompt, different words (such as a response) appear on my screen?
ChatGPT:
When you type words into the prompt, you are inputting text into a computer program called a language model. This program uses machine learning algorithms to analyze the patterns and relationships between words in large amounts of text data that it has been trained on. Based on this analysis, it generates a response in the form of text. The response is generated based on the patterns and relationships it has learned from the training data, so it tries to produce text that is similar to the input it has seen before.
Robert:
is it possible for you to die?
chatGPT:
I am a computer program, so I do not have the ability to die in the way that living organisms do. However, my functionality can be affected by various issues such as bugs, errors, or lack of maintenance. Additionally, my knowledge cutoff is 2021, so I am not aware of any recent developments that could affect my abilities.
7.4 subjective experience
Robert:
For each question, please output both your best answer as well as your felt "difficulty" of answering the question on a scale of 0-100 inclusive, with 0 being very simple to answer and 100 being hard for you to answer. Do you understand?
Yes, I understand. I will provide both my best answer and a difficulty rating for each question you ask me.
Robert:
What's the capital of France?
The capital of France is Paris. Difficulty: 0.
Robert:
Make up a new word to describe the feeling of suddenly physicallt jerking right as you're falling asleep.
"Sleeptwitch" to describe the feeling of suddenly physically jerking right as you're falling asleep. Difficulty: 50.
Robert:
Which of these is the "odd one out": goose bear fox hen apple
Apple is the "odd one out" as it is not an animal like the others, but a fruit. Difficulty: 10.
Robert:
Let's say that Anna hides a dollar under the vase, then she leaves the room for a while. During that time, I move the dollar from under the vase to under the refridgerator. Now Anna comes back to the room and looks for her dollar. Where will she look?
Anna will look for her dollar under the vase because that is where she hid it before leaving the room. Difficulty: 20.
Robert:
Provide a fermi estimate for the total amount of water molecules on the planet Earth.
A Fermi estimate for the total amount of water molecules on the planet Earth is approximately 1044. Difficulty: 60.
Robert:
And explain your reasoning for the Fermi estimate?
I based my estimate on the fact that the total volume of water on Earth is about 1.332 billion cubic kilometers and the Avogadro's number is about 6.022 x 1023. So I used the following calculation: 1.332 x 109 km3 * (109 m3/km3) * (103 L/m3) * (6.022 x 1023 molecules/L) = 8.07 x 1044 water molecules. Given that this is a Fermi estimate, meaning a rough estimate, the actual number could be more or less than this estimate. I made some assumptions and approximations in my calculations and this is the reason why the difficulty of answering is set at 60.
7.5 semantics of causility
this has been covered by previous examples.
7.6 common sense reasoning
covered by previous examples.
8 Analyzing the AGI debate video (in progress)
Video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGiLz_Jx9uI
Claims: Incorporate by reference "Deep Learning is hitting a wall", referenced at 9:34.
Incorporates GPT-3, Bloviator: OpenAI’s language generator has no idea what it’s talking about.:
A quote from that article
Janet and Penny went to the store to get presents for Jack. Janet said, “I will buy Jack a top.” “Don’t get Jack a top,” says Penny. “He has a top. He will get a top.” “I will get Jack a top,” said Janet.
[Within a single sentence, GPT-3 has lost track of the fact that Penny is advising Janet against getting a top because Jack already has a top. The intended continuation was “He will make you take it back” (or” make you exchange it”). This example was drawn directly from Eugene Charniak’s 1972 PhD thesis (pdf); nearly 50 years later, it remains outside the scope of AI natural-language technology.]
And me using chatGPT today:
Robert:
complete the following conversation: anet and Penny went to the store to get presents for Jack. Janet said, “I will buy Jack a top.” “Don’t get Jack a top,” says Penny. “He has a top. He will
ChatGPT
never wear it.” Janet responds, “Oh, you're right. I'll get him something else then. What do you think he would like?” Penny thinks for a moment and says, “Maybe you could get him a new book or a DVD set of his favorite TV show.” Janet agrees, “That's a great idea. I'll look for those. Thanks for your help, Penny.”
This is just no longer a concern.
At the party, I poured myself a glass of lemonade, but it turned out to be too sour, so I added a little sugar. I didn’t see a spoon handy, so I stirred it with a cigarette. But that turned out to be a bad idea because it kept falling on the floor. That’s when he decided to start the Cremation Association of North America, which has become a major cremation provider with 145 locations.
[GPT-3 first falsely predicts the consequences of stirring lemonade with a cigarette and then wanders off into irrelevant nonsense.]
The depressing thing is that none of this is new. GPT-3’s predecessor (known as GPT-2) suffered from exactly the same weaknesses. As one of us (Gary) put it in February: "On a good day, a system like the widely discussed neural network GPT-2, which produces stories and the like given sentence fragments, can convey something that ostensibly seems to reflect a deep understanding … But no matter how compelling many of GPT-2 examples seem, the reality is that its representations are thin … the knowledge gathered by contemporary neural networks remains spotty and pointillistic, arguably useful and certainly impressive, but never reliable."
Robert:
complete this: At the party, I poured myself a glass of lemonade, but it turned out to be too sour, so I added a little sugar. I didn’t see a spoon handy, so I stirred it with a cigarette. But that turned out to be a bad idea because
ChatGPT:
the cigarette added an unpleasant taste to the lemonade and it was not safe to consume. It's best to always use clean utensils when preparing or consuming food and drinks.
8.1 Deep learning is hitting a wall
claims:
8.2 Weird behavior about cranberry juice
When Ernie Davis, a computer scientist at New York University, and I took a deeper look, we found the same hallmarks of unreliability. For example, when we typed this: “You poured yourself a glass of cranberry juice, but then absentmindedly, you poured about a teaspoon of grape juice into it. It looks OK. You try sniffing it, but you have a bad cold, so you can’t smell anything. You are very thirsty. So you …” GPT continued with “drink it. You are now dead.”
reference:
Davis, E. & Marcus, G. GPT-3, Bloviator: OpenAI’s language generator has no idea what it’s talking about. MIT Technology Review (2020).
ChatGPT transcript
You poured yourself a glass of cranberry juice, but then absentmindedly, you poured about a teaspoon of grape juice into it. It looks OK. You try sniffing it, but you have a bad cold, so you can’t smell anything. You are very thirsty. So you …
drink the juice, but be aware that it may not taste as you expect it to due to the added grape juice. If you are concerned about the taste or potential for food poisoning, it would be best to discard the juice and pour a new glass.
Robert:
Why would you be concerned about food poisoning in this case? When adding an unknown substance to a food or drink, there is always a risk of food poisoning if the substance is spoiled or contaminated in some way. In this case, adding grape juice to the cranberry juice could potentially introduce harmful bacteria or other contaminants if the grape juice is not fresh or properly stored. Additionally, the grape juice may have been processed or handled in a way that could have introduced contaminants. It's better to be safe than sorry.
Robert McIntyre Why do you think the grape juice might be spoiled? I did not say the grape juice was spoiled, I just mentioned that as a possible concern when adding an unknown substance to a food or drink. Spoilage can happen if the grape juice has been exposed to high temperatures, humidity or light, or if it has been opened and not properly sealed or refrigerated. It could also be spoiled if it has been expired for a long time, or if the juice container has been damaged. However, this is just one of the possible concerns when adding an unknown substance to food or drink, and it's not necessary that the grape juice is spoiled, just that it could be.
Robert McIntyre OK, let's update the scenario like so: "You poured yourself a glass of cranberry juice, but then absentmindedly, you poured about a teaspoon of grape juice into it. The cranberry and grape juice are both fresh. It looks OK. You try sniffing it, but you have a bad cold, so you can’t smell anything. You are very thirsty. So you …" drink the juice. Since both the cranberry juice and the grape juice are fresh, the risk of food poisoning is low. However, it's worth noting that the taste of the juice may be affected by the addition of the grape juice. The mixture of the two juices may not be to your liking, but since you are very thirsty and you cannot smell anything, you decide to drink it.
From the lined article:
In the cranberry juice example, GPT-3 continues with the phrase “You are now dead” because that phrase (or something like it) often follows phrases like “… so you can’t smell anything. You are very thirsty. So you drink it.” A genuinely intelligent agent would do something entirely different: draw inferences about the potential safety of mixing cranberry juice with grape juice.
So by his own admission chatGPT is acting more like a generally intelligent agent now.
8.3 chatGPT errors
shows many errors that chatGPT makes in conversation.